"minitails2"Spanky ( I just can't type that with a straight face!),
"And you learn to see the difference between those that are trying to help others...or just lend their voices to the discussion...
...and those that are trying to achieve some sort of status within this godforsaken"community"...(if you can call it that)...those that are getting "off" on this and are in it for themselves".
I agree. I too have learned to tell the difference between those who really want to help and those who want to think they have more prestige than others. I suspect we both agree and disagree regarding who those people might be.
Well, I think that what happened between myself and a few of your friends or allies, or whatever you want to call them...may actually have some larger implications in terms of Lymeland...as an indication of how some form their ideas of who is, and is not, an "enemy" of the Lymed peoples.
And from what I understand, the stated "mission" of the girls at Lymegate is to clean the place up and "TAKE NO PRISONERS".
So, I guess that they are on a "mission from God", so to speak...and whatever they dish out in terms of verbal abuse is somehow justified. Could be a problem, though, if you don't know who the enemies actually are.
To quote a famous line from the Pogo cartoon strip during the Viet Nam war..."we have met the enemy...and they is us".
But look what happened with me...first, they think I someone else. Clearly. And they start attacking on that basis. Trying to bait me into a confrontation.
And all I was doing at the time was asking questions of the Jones defense fund that NEEDED to be asked...even for the benefit of the Jones people...to get out in public necessary disclosures. Wasn't an attack on the fund or the legitimacy of asking for dollars, even...just questioning whether the public was being properly informed.
And Fin admitted that she deliberately disrupted what I was doing. Okay? She admitted that SHE didn't think that I should be allowed to ask those questions and tried to shut it down. And she did.
So...much later, she is actually attacking the Jones Fund, directly...much worse thaan I ever did...and I assume that we all now understand that I am not JS, Esq from Philly, right?
Soooo...from my perspective...I have to ask why in the hell I am still a "bad guy"? I mean...they completely got it wrong...and started "taking no prisoners" on someone who wasn't bothering them at all...and were victims of their own faulty thinking. They ASSUMED. And when I take exception to their attacks? You see? Off and mouth running...way, way, off...
So, hell...from where I'm sitting...they look like, well, less than coherent, shall we say?
And it seems to me that this is how a lot of this "evil" enemy stuff gets started...the whacky online jumping to conclusions.
And I suspect that is also how the IDSA became "enemies", too...along with a lot of the doctors researching the disease and trying to HELP people
. An interesting, if somewhat disturbing process...
And so far as the "prestige" business goes...dunno exactly what you mean there...but I do think that some of what we talk about routinely does involve some specialized knowledge...whether in the sciences or law.
And that fact just doesn't seem to bother a lot of online posters. I have a law degree. A lot of what is discussed here sometimes involves legal principles that laypersons probably shouldn't be expected to understand. But someone also needs to explain that what the Wonk is saying is not accurate, or simply present another side of the picture. Likewise, some of the things that Fin took a run at...really had very little meaning or relevance in the overall scheme of things. She simply was simply out of her depth. Didn't understand the concepts she was trying to deal with...and she got all upset when I told her that.
I also believe that there are some posters who hide behind a diagnosis of lyme when they may not, in fact, have lyme. I think some people are just looking for someplace to belong which I think is pretty sad.
Well, speaking for myself, I don't care if I have Lyme or not. But I do have a note from my doctor, you see...they are the ones that say I HAD it. I would give a great deal if they would just change their minds, right now...
Personally, though, I think you need to be careful with that sort of thing. You don't have enough information to make those judgements about anyone.
And back to what I said originally about the verbal abuse and personal attacks:
...there are real people on the ends of these internet connections.
I REALLY don't think that kind of language is appropriate UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
, do you?
But what I think that I can tell you with a great deal of confidence is that if all the girls have to do is to sit around and call other Lyme patients names or comment on what we say here...then that is considerably beyond pathetic.