LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by Spanky » Mon 22 Oct 2012 16:08

Do you mean to tell me, that after all this time...all the endless 'discussions' about this issue...

...that you don't even understand what others here meant when using the term "chronic Lyme"?

Really?

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by Spanky » Mon 22 Oct 2012 16:09

Carina wrote:I have now informed admin.
Of what?

It's DIRECTLY on-topic and I am asking you an extremely simple question to HELP you and others understand one another better.

This isn't a question that is directly about the meaning of the term "chronic Lyme"...

... it's a question designed to find out what Carina's understanding is of how others had been using the term: "chronic Lyme"...

...because, from what you said, it doesn't appear that you have correctly understood.

Understand?

I wonder if you would be so kind as to answer my question?

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by X-member » Mon 22 Oct 2012 16:29

In order to help everybody to understand one another better, Martian have posted this:

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... =60#p32593

Martian:
So let us not use the term "chronic Lyme",
But since Spanky need to inform me (us?) how HE has used the above, maybe it is time that he does?

What are YOU, Spanky talking about when YOU write: "chronic Lyme" in this forum?

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by Spanky » Mon 22 Oct 2012 16:32

It's a VERY simple question, Carina.

There's no need to be evasive.

Do you agree that this is correct or not:
Remember that the US diagnosis chronic Lyme disease is used (at least it has been in this forum) for symptoms that have lasted for a long time =it is the symptoms that are chronic after treatment,
Yes, or no, please.

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by X-member » Mon 22 Oct 2012 16:35

I have now informed admin again.

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by Spanky » Mon 22 Oct 2012 16:36

Carina wrote:I have now informed admin again.

Of WHAT?

Just yes or no, Carina.

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by X-member » Mon 28 Jan 2013 0:26

"Chronic or Late Lyme Neuroborreliosis: Analysis of Evidence Compared to Chronic or Late Neurosyphilis"
Judith Miklossy*


http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tone ... TONEUJ.pdf

A quote from the link above:
The terms “late” and “chronic” Lyme disease, as in syphilis, are synonymous and define tertiary Lyme disease. The use of “chronic” Lyme disease as a different entity is inaccurate and confusing.

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by X-member » Mon 8 Apr 2013 15:01

From EUCALB:

http://meduni09.edis.at/eucalb/cms_15/i ... &Itemid=38
Clinical Features

Infection can be subclinical (asymptomatic), or have a range of clinical presentations, depending on the tissues affected, the duration of infection, host factors such as the vulnerability of the immune system and immunogenetic factors which could predispose the patient to the development of certain complications. Clinical presentations can generally be divided into three stages but progress from an early to later stage is not inevitable, even if the infection is untreated. The three stages are named early localised LB, early disseminated LB and late (chronic) LB.

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Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Post by X-member » Sun 14 Apr 2013 16:34

From the first post in this thread:
Chronic Lyme disease = persistent symptoms associated with Lyme disease after "appropriate" antibiotic treatment, without clinical evidence of persistent Lyme disease.
Can anyone give us a reliable source for this use of the definition above!

And I also want it to be written without quotation marks.

Thank you!

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