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The "treatment protocol" mentioned by a member

Post by X-member » Sun 13 Apr 2014 19:01

This have been mentioned here:

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... =10&t=4891

Here:

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... 274#p38200

Here:

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... =80#p38201

And here:

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... 327#p38202

Maybe I have missed some posts?

Now I wonder, does this protocol also work on every co-infection or other infection that people that suffer from late Lyme disease could have?

How about people that also have a immune deficiency like I do?

Can I be cured with this "treatment protocol" in 60 days?


Edit to add:

I have had my active, still ongoing borrelia infection for at least 13 years now.

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Re: The "treatment protocol" mentioned by a member

Post by Will Wiegman » Fri 23 Jan 2015 6:47

Hi, sorry I didn't see this sooner.

What happens is that your immune system, when overtaxed by huge numbers of spirochetes as well as co-infections, runs out of Thiocyanate which is normally stored in your liver.

If you can reduce the number of bacteria, up your intake of good whole natural foods that contain amygdalin so that your body can replenish the nutrients required by the immune system to function properly, you can get your health back to normal.

http://www.vitaminb17.org/foods.htm

The reason most people can't get rid of Lyme is that they only attack the spirochetes which in their last moments before the die, expel the egg-like cycst form by creating blister-like blebs made from their own outer cell walls. These 'cyct' forms contain m-RNA and Supercoiled DNA and develop into another spirochete. These can survive up to 9 days before they have to go ahead and develop.

There is the potential to actually create more spirochetes than you kill using strong antibiotics like Doxycycline and shown by Dr. Eva Sapi's experiments and research papers.

By combining Minocycline at low levels combined with Tinidazole (or Flagyl, both of which kill the cyst form) you can also kill the cysts at the same time. Both cross the blood brain barrier to get to the ones trapped in your cerebrospinal fluid.

This won't kill Babesia living in your red blood cells although the Tinidazole will kill Bart.
For Babesia you will need something like Artesiminin (3 weeks on, 1 week off) from a product like ProBiotics.

Best to get rid of the Borrelia first because it affects nearly every system in your body, thus weakening your whole system, depleting your stores of Thiocyanate and making your immune system totally impotent.

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Re: The "treatment protocol" mentioned by a member

Post by ChronicLyme19 » Fri 23 Jan 2015 15:10

Not sure about the whole protocol, but I do find that minocycline and tindamax make me feel a lot better. I've got a total IgG deficiency. I went through a few months of alternating tindamax and azithro at the end of 2013 and then followed by minocycline. My doc, doesn't like to use full week tindamax because it can flare neuropathy, so he does a few days on a few days off. I felt really good after those months, so they tried taking me off the abx, and unfortunately I relapsed after about two weeks.

I think it's really hard to come up with a one solution for all Lyme, because we all have different underlying medical issues and different co-infections, so I tend not to trust blanket curative statements.

The best way I have found is to make one change at a time and keep a very detailed journal, that way I can see after a month if it's helping or hurting. Any flares I get usually last under two weeks, so if after a month I'm feeling worse I know it's not helping.
Half of what you are taught is incorrect, but which half? What if there's another half missing?

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Re: The "treatment protocol" mentioned by a member

Post by Will Wiegman » Sun 26 Jul 2015 22:46

You have to get rid of the Borrelia so that your D3 levels get back up to normal. It also depletes your Thiocyanate levels because your immune system is always attacking the antigens it scrubs off every time one of them squeezed through a pore in a capillary somewhere.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... 0.s007.swf
Good video of one escaping...

The importance of Thiocyanate can't be stressed enough. It is the main anti-oxident that protects your own cells against the H2O2 and -Cl produced by white blood cells when they kill bacteria or clean up debris.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2777967/

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Re: The "treatment protocol" mentioned by a member

Post by Will Wiegman » Sat 2 Jul 2016 3:13

Dear Doctor ______________________,

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me with my Lyme.

I have attached (name) immunology reports for your review.

Below I listed the following protocol and explanatory research for addressing Lyme and other infections as an underlying cause of the behavioral symptoms and chronic health challenges that my child _______________endures, instead of using the CDC Standard of Care for Lyme treatment.

On this protocol you do NOT take daily Doxycycline - the theory being that given daily in high doses, as the Standard of Care recommends, or included in cocktails, Doxy creates more Borrelia and a more complicated infection and Symptoms Profile per the extensive research of Dr. Eva Sapi. Per her research, whenever Borrelia detects a fatal attack on itself it creates primitive egg-like cysts that contain the m-RNA to create the protective soft fatty eggshell and DNA to create another spirochete. These eggs have to hatchout in 9-17 days, potentially a week after the last dose of Doxy is gone from the bloodstream.

If you change the protocol, it won’t work. It is based on specific attributes of all antibiotics, dosages and especially timing to kill Borrelia when it cannot defend itself.

The treatment: Will Wiegman Pulsed Protocol -
http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4891

1. Supplementing Amygdalin, HMDB35030, the Thiocyanate precursor, in the form of wild cherry bark extract, seeds, kernels, sprouts, and any other foods rich in this Essential Nutrient (HMDB35030) to reverse the Thiocyanate deficiency. Thiocyanate is the only antioxidant that fuels The White Bloods Cells and prevents their self destruction by the ROS they make internally to kill bacteria, process vaccines or any of the many other chores they do in the body.

It takes about two weeks to reverse the deficiency. We have done this already, and are very impressed and hopeful about the positive changes already seen.

A daily intake of 35 mg. of amygdalin for a 150 pound adult from natural food sources or extracts would be a Recommended Daily Requirement to maintain serum Thiocyanate levels as well as amounts stored in the liver. Triple this during the Protocol.
http://www.hmdb.ca/metabolites/HMDB35030
http://www.hmdb.ca/metabolites/HMDB01453

After 2 weeks of supplementing the diet, you add the following:

2. Minocycline – 1 dose, every other day for 60 days (total of 30 pills), 1 mg. per pound of body weight.

3. Tindimax (Tinidazole) - every other day w/ food for 60 days (total of 30 pills) - on same day as Minocycline but at least an hour apart. 2 mg. per pound of body weight.

The established success of this pulsed protocol of Mino/Tindy is based on Minocycline killing spirochetes while they are in normal mitosal cell division. Tinidazole kills them when they are not in cell division. Tindy also kills the primitive egg-like cysts they can form as they die. Tinidazole also breaks down any spirochetal biofilm colonies that may form in the white matter of the body like myelin tissues (including nerve sheaths), tendons and ligaments. Minocycline and Tinidazole both cross the BBB into the CSF in the same concentrations as the rest of the body.

Pulsing the Minocycline also keeps serum levels below that which Borrelia can detect so that the spirochetes will not go into hibernation for up to 6 weeks but high enough to kill them on the days the doses are taken. An average of 40% of remaining spirochetes will be killed with each dose this way as well as some of the Bartonella if present.

(Note: As bacterial loads are reduced, the serum concentrations of Minocycline will increase to also start to kill Bartonella if present.)

Note: If Herxeimer Reaction is intense, Burbur or Milk Thistle can be used to calm.

4. Vitamins B6, B12, Iodide, and Vitamin D3 supplementation (b/c Tindimax up regulates B6/B12 consumption by the Immune System and Borrelia blocks D3 conversion in the kidneys).

5. Pinella Brain Cleanse (Nutramedix brand) each day to cleanse the white matter of the brain, 10 drops added to food or drink or Wild Cherry Bark Extract, 10 drops added to food or drink.
(Note: If patient is subject to seizures, only use the Pinella as it has anti-spasmodic properties that the WCB extract does not.)

6. Ivermectin - 1 normal dose, adjusted for weight of the patient, for parasites , one dose every 10 days (4 doses total) taken on 'off' days from other meds (w/ food). This is b/c, per the research of Dr Eva Sapi, because 40% of the ticks studied had microscopic filarial nematodes.

7. After 60 days of abx, switch to TriBiotics, 2-3 doses a day depending on weight, spaced at least 8 hours apart, 1 week on and 1 week off, repeat 4 times. Note: A combination of these herbs sourced individually may be used by people who may be allergic to the Black Walnut Hulls. This product contains Atremisinin and Berberine that address several common co-infections including Babesia, Bartonella, and Mycoplasma.
Note: Large die-off of Babesia and Bartonella can release excess iron into the bloodstream from the RBCs they were living in and on.

TriBiotics contains Artemisinin, Berberine Sulfate, Citrus Seed Extract, and Black Walnut Hulls. Research on Artemisinin won the 2015 Nobel Prize. Artemisinin is for Babesia, a co-infection of Lyme that is similar to Malaria. (Note: Black Walnut Hulls may initiate a Nut Allergy in some people.)

Curious as to your thoughts and whether its worth a try to pulse Mino and Tindamax on an every other day schedule for ______________ ?

Here are some links to the research used for this protocol if you need peer reviewed evidence to support the validity of the protocol:

The Lyme disease Spirochete Borrelia Burgdorferi induces inflammation and apoptosis in cells from dorsal root ganglia is the focus of the research. Significant for those with PANDAS symptoms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PANDAS

Other odd symptoms of disruption of bodily functions in Lyme Disease may be easily explained as inflammation in the Dorsal Root Ganglia of the spinal cord disrupting signals in both the Parasympathetic and Sympathetic Nervous Systems: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23866773

This explains why the protocol uses Minocycline instead of Doxycycline. The last paragraph specifically addresses Minocycline's excellent CNS penetration capability in the same concentration as the rest of the body. (Tinidazole also does this.)
http://www.emedexpert.com/compare-meds/ ... line.shtml

This paper by Dr. Eva Sapi - Bacterial Biofilms and Lyme Disease - discusses the way Doxy creates 3 times as many spirochetes as it kills by allowing them to excrete up to 12 (average of 3) primitive egg sacs as they die.
https://www.dovepress.com/evaluation-of ... rticle-IDR

For information on Thiocyanate: http://www.pnas.org/content/106/48/20515.long (And why Neutrophils cannot process vaccines when a Severe Thiocyanate Deficiency exists.)

Importance of Neutrophils to the entire Cellular Repair and Immune Systems including the Mucosal Immune System and the Respiratory Immune System:
http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.t ... review.pdf

The next link provides good information regarding B-17 in foods. B17 is a research Red Herring since it doesn’t actually exist as an FDA vitamin due to the pharmaceitical industry blocking it’s recognition. These non-GM/GMO foods contain Amygdalin, Gene HMDB 35030, Thiocyante’s only precursor, and it is the only Antioxidant that fuels and recharges the Neutrophils/White Blood Cells of all mammalian life. A call to a Systems Biologist confirms its role in the Innate Immune System, the Mucosal Immune System, and the Respiratory Immune System (the Firewall of the immune system in the Eyes, Ears, Nose, Throat, and all mucosal linings exposed to air).

Infections like PANDAS, Lyme, Babesia, and Bartonella become chronic and difficult to treat if a chronic thiocyanate deficiency exists since the Neutrophils self-oxidize themselves without thiocyanate and fail to activate the macrophages and T-Cells and cannot create antibodies either.

Tests for Lyme, like that look for antibodies will fail if a Severe Thiocyanate Deficiency blocks the formation of the antibodies they test for.

Foods Containing Amygdalin (Not to be confused with Laetrile) - all contain Amygdalin, gene HMDB 35030, an essential nutrient not currently classified as an FDA Vitamin, but no less vital to the immune system despite that regulatory oversight. http://www.vitaminb17.org/foods.htm

Thank you very much for your time and continued help with _______________.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely,

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Re: The "treatment protocol" mentioned by a member

Post by X-member » Wed 6 Jul 2016 18:46

I don't really understand the answer(s) on my question about if this treatment protocol will be sufficient for a person with a primary (i.e. inherited) immunodeficiency like I have.

And I can not find any proof(s) in the answers from Will Wiegman that this treatment protocol will work on all possible other infections that a person that suffer from late Lyme borreliosis could have. I have now had my, still ongoing borreliosis for 15 years.
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Re: The "treatment protocol" mentioned by a member

Post by X-member » Wed 6 Jul 2016 23:44

Will Wiegman wrote earlier in this thread:
....Doxy creates more Borrelia and a more complicated infection and Symptoms Profile per the extensive research of Dr. Eva Sapi.
Really?

Edit to add:

I have now activated the thread below:

Sapi - Antibiotic susceptibility different forms of Bb

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... f=5&t=3299

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