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Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Mon 3 Dec 2007 0:18
by trout77
well it does work for some people one person said to me that they are better but still sick.
like a lo t of you people on abx 8-)

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Thu 26 Mar 2009 19:47
by Joe Ham
Whatever happened to trout77 ? He hasn't posted here on LNE or any other board that I visit since last July. Maybe he is posting to the Rife boards. Anyone know?

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Thu 26 Mar 2009 19:54
by Fin24
now Porky ( she chides softly)

didnt YOU just blast Cavey for doing the very same thing--wonder about someone who posts elsewhere and bringing back up OLD stuff???

All you woulda had to DO was PM him or google his screen name and see if anything recent was posted by him--YOU of all people knows this

so YOU are using this board to "find out about" someone and yet poor Cavey "shouldnt"--because YOU said so???

tsk tsk
:bonk:

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Fri 27 Mar 2009 1:47
by Joe Ham
Fin24 wrote:now Porky ( she chides softly)

didnt YOU just blast Cavey for doing the very same thing--wonder about someone who posts elsewhere and bringing back up OLD stuff???
Not really. I was asking on this board about a poster to this board and I wasn't whining about being banned on the other board. Can you grasp the distinction?

OLD stuff??? Am I not supposed to bump old threads when they are relevant to current discussions?
All you woulda had to DO was PM him or google his screen name and see if anything recent was posted by him--YOU of all people knows this
Didn't I trigger an automatic e-mail to him by posting to a thread that he had posted to? Maybe Martian will tell us if it bounces.

Okay, you made me look. According to Google "trout77" has not posted to any other board, only to LNE form Oct '07 to July '08.
so YOU are using this board to "find out about" someone and yet poor Cavey "shouldnt"--because YOU said so???
Distinction made above.
And if I need to explain my actions to YOU, I was trying to shame Cavey into doing a bit of introspection. Obviously it didn't work.
And in case you haven't noticed Cavey is strong enough to fight her own battles.
tsk tsk
:bonk:
Tsk tsk, indeed.

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Fri 27 Mar 2009 2:18
by cave76
"OLD stuff??? Am I not supposed to bump old threads when they are relevant to current discussions?:
and
"Can you grasp the distinction?"
Sounds like someone's channeling Sir Real. :bonk:
, I was trying to shame Cavey into doing a bit of introspection. Obviously it didn't work.
SNORT and PIFFLE
And in case you haven't noticed Cavey is strong enough to fight her own battles.
Yes she is! But Fin's doing such a great job, I thought I'd just sit back, eat chocolate and watch the fun.

:woohoo:

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Fri 27 Mar 2009 4:20
by Fin24
:lol:

love you both despite your old crotchety crankinesses

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Sat 2 Mar 2013 4:46
by bluesdoc
Joe Ham wrote:By Jon Sterngold MD; copied from another list Mar 2007, posted with permission of the author.
When I first figured out I had Lyme last summer (and before I knew much about treatment), after a brief course of beta lactams, I got a rife machine, having read Bryan's (first) book.

At first, I felt like the poster child. Strong herxes after every treatment and continued improvement. I contacted Bryan and we talked about the possibly of me writing the intro to his next book.

Then I went down the tubes. About 6 weeks into 'rifing', I stopped having herx reactions and gradually got worse, and worse, and worse. Far worse than pre-treatment. [...]

I told Bryan that I probably shouldn't be the one to write an intro to a book about Rifing, given the complete failure I experienced.

In retrospect, I believe the Rife machine was pretty good at sniping the mature cell wall forms from my blood stream but that I was well on my way to having/activating CWD form disease.

Bryan seemed like a nice guy who had assembled a lot of anecdotal evidence for the efficacy of rifing. But, of course, that efficacy would be dependent on CWD and cyst forms transforming to mature forms to become susceptible to rife energy. I ran out of time.***

Jon Sterngold MD ret ER doc, life coach, guitarist Lyme ~17 yrs, Dx'd 2006


I felt compelled to register here and give some followup to this post and thread from so many years ago. This quote of mine above is what I experienced using an EMEM gas tube discharge machine in 2006. What followed was years of alternative approaches and then more years of truckloads of antibiotics as recommended by one of the top docs in this realm. A LOT of antibiotics. I did a lot of herxing and some of my symptoms improved on a timescale of years. That is, until 2012 when, despite being on a lot of antibiotics, I got worse than in years. By October of 2012 I had to admit defeat. At the same time, I tried a friend's GB4000 Rife machine and had a nearly immediate herx reaction. I decided this was to be my direction for now. The fork in the road. There are a thousand details - far too much to type - but suffice it to say that I'm now in my 5th month of Rifing and a month ago I added a 'Doug Coil' machine to my armamentarium. I'm a bit better than last October, but still contending with very intense herx reactions, especially to the coil machine, known for it's power to kill these critters. Even a 30 second exposure induces die off reactions. And no, I don't have EMF hypersensitivity. I've spent a lot of time in other electronic circuitry (EG, guitar amplifiers) and never had any reactions. So, I feel more optimistic than in a long time. I'm aware of large cohorts of folks who spent years and fortunes on antibiotics, getting nowhere, who subsequently got their lives back after around a year of Rifing. I'm also aware of a lot of antibiotic treatment successes. There so much that's not understood, and unpredictable. As a case of 1, no real conclusions can be drawn, but if there's a way to retract my "complete failure" statement, I'd like to do that. I sure hope it works out but as you all know, we don't know until we get there. Wherever 'there' is. It's my turn. I'm on the bus. Stay tuned....

jon

Jon Sterngold MD
http://www.LifePathGuide.com

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Sun 3 Mar 2013 0:45
by Lorima
Thank you for posting!
We look forward to updates.
Best wishes,
Lorima

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Sat 6 Apr 2013 16:49
by bluesdoc
Update 5+ months in to rifing, 2+ months using a doug coil. When I stopped abx and began rifing, my C4a was over 25,000 :shock: A couple of weeks ago, it's down to 7,700 :!: Doing better, with a long way to go, which is apparently on schedule. :arrow: :arrow:

jon

Re: Rife - "complete failure"

Posted: Sat 6 Apr 2013 17:20
by Martian
bluesdoc wrote:I felt compelled to register here and give some followup to this post and thread from so many years ago. This quote of mine above is what I experienced using an EMEM gas tube discharge machine in 2006. What followed was years of alternative approaches and then more years of truckloads of antibiotics as recommended by one of the top docs in this realm. A LOT of antibiotics. I did a lot of herxing and some of my symptoms improved on a timescale of years. That is, until 2012 when, despite being on a lot of antibiotics, I got worse than in years. By October of 2012 I had to admit defeat.
bluesdoc wrote:Update 5+ months in to rifing, 2+ months using a doug coil. When I stopped abx and began rifing, my C4a was over 25,000 :shock: A couple of weeks ago, it's down to 7,700 :!: Doing better, with a long way to go, which is apparently on schedule. :arrow: :arrow:
Maybe you got worse than in years because of being on a lot of antibiotics for years ("years of alternative approaches and then more years of truckloads of antibiotics"), and maybe you are doing better now because you stopped with antibiotics.