Re: Rife - "complete failure"
Posted: Mon 3 Dec 2007 0:18
well it does work for some people one person said to me that they are better but still sick.
like a lo t of you people on abx
like a lo t of you people on abx
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Not really. I was asking on this board about a poster to this board and I wasn't whining about being banned on the other board. Can you grasp the distinction?Fin24 wrote:now Porky ( she chides softly)
didnt YOU just blast Cavey for doing the very same thing--wonder about someone who posts elsewhere and bringing back up OLD stuff???
Didn't I trigger an automatic e-mail to him by posting to a thread that he had posted to? Maybe Martian will tell us if it bounces.All you woulda had to DO was PM him or google his screen name and see if anything recent was posted by him--YOU of all people knows this
Distinction made above.so YOU are using this board to "find out about" someone and yet poor Cavey "shouldnt"--because YOU said so???
Tsk tsk, indeed.tsk tsk
Sounds like someone's channeling Sir Real."OLD stuff??? Am I not supposed to bump old threads when they are relevant to current discussions?:
"Can you grasp the distinction?"
SNORT and PIFFLE, I was trying to shame Cavey into doing a bit of introspection. Obviously it didn't work.
Yes she is! But Fin's doing such a great job, I thought I'd just sit back, eat chocolate and watch the fun.And in case you haven't noticed Cavey is strong enough to fight her own battles.
Joe Ham wrote:By Jon Sterngold MD; copied from another list Mar 2007, posted with permission of the author.
When I first figured out I had Lyme last summer (and before I knew much about treatment), after a brief course of beta lactams, I got a rife machine, having read Bryan's (first) book.
At first, I felt like the poster child. Strong herxes after every treatment and continued improvement. I contacted Bryan and we talked about the possibly of me writing the intro to his next book.
Then I went down the tubes. About 6 weeks into 'rifing', I stopped having herx reactions and gradually got worse, and worse, and worse. Far worse than pre-treatment. [...]
I told Bryan that I probably shouldn't be the one to write an intro to a book about Rifing, given the complete failure I experienced.
In retrospect, I believe the Rife machine was pretty good at sniping the mature cell wall forms from my blood stream but that I was well on my way to having/activating CWD form disease.
Bryan seemed like a nice guy who had assembled a lot of anecdotal evidence for the efficacy of rifing. But, of course, that efficacy would be dependent on CWD and cyst forms transforming to mature forms to become susceptible to rife energy. I ran out of time.***
Jon Sterngold MD ret ER doc, life coach, guitarist Lyme ~17 yrs, Dx'd 2006
bluesdoc wrote:I felt compelled to register here and give some followup to this post and thread from so many years ago. This quote of mine above is what I experienced using an EMEM gas tube discharge machine in 2006. What followed was years of alternative approaches and then more years of truckloads of antibiotics as recommended by one of the top docs in this realm. A LOT of antibiotics. I did a lot of herxing and some of my symptoms improved on a timescale of years. That is, until 2012 when, despite being on a lot of antibiotics, I got worse than in years. By October of 2012 I had to admit defeat.
Maybe you got worse than in years because of being on a lot of antibiotics for years ("years of alternative approaches and then more years of truckloads of antibiotics"), and maybe you are doing better now because you stopped with antibiotics.bluesdoc wrote:Update 5+ months in to rifing, 2+ months using a doug coil. When I stopped abx and began rifing, my C4a was over 25,000 A couple of weeks ago, it's down to 7,700 Doing better, with a long way to go, which is apparently on schedule.