I would guess that the poster on curezone was addressing the many different aspects of the ph issue because whether or not Mr.
Humble agrees with the current baseless fad of blaming an acidic environment in our bodies for creating ill health, many of his supporters and sellers are very vocal about it in their support.
As described by the poster, one of the reasons often given to explain how ClO2 improves health, is because it works best in an ill, acidic environment. Mr.
Humble generally says very little about MMS directly, and instead relies upon various "charitable" organizations as well as sellers, and operators of supportive websites to spread the word. If you read what he wrote in his reply carefully, in addition to numerous denials, he provided very few verifiable facts, and instead pointed to vaguely referenced "studies," claims of successes which are impossible to verify, and a number of personal attacks.
He wrote:
MMS IS ACIDIC WHEN IT ENTERS THE BODY, BUT THE CHLORINE DIOXIDE THAT DOES THE WORK IS NOT ACIDIC. IN FACT, I CAN SAY THAT ACID OR ALKALINE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
His response seems to make sense on this one, but if MMS is turned into ClO2 ("activated"), and the person taking it is instructed to wait two different times in the preperation period precisely to allow the chemical reaction to take place, then whatever people are taking, should not be acidic or else it isn't ClO2.
The ClO2 molecule, as I understand it, is, as
Humble says in his response, a neutral molecule. Water soluble molecules, such as ClO2, tend to be neutral. (I believe this is why the poster mentions lipids or fats). However, he's trying to have it both ways.
Humble states that stomach acid and an acidic environment in general have little if any effect on MMS, but also states that the MMS is acidic when ingested, but that could only be true if whatever is consumed is not ClO2 because, as I mentioned ClO2 is neutral. According to
Humble, however, whatever is being ingested creates ClO2 in the body. Where is the acid coming from that is creating a continuing reaction? Or alternatively, where is the necessary NaClO2 coming from?
Also,
Humble said:
...THE STOMACH WALLS DO INDEED ADSORB QUITE A FEW NUTRIENTS....
and it was mentioned in a subsequent post that was possibly true.
It does seem, prima facia, to be correct but also extremely vague. Just to clarify, here are some medical definitions:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/gut
gut (gt) n.
1. The alimentary canal or a portion thereof, especially the intestine or
stomach.
2. The embryonic digestive tube, consisting of the foregut, the midgut, and the
hindgut.
3. guts The bowels; entrails; viscera.
Obviously, the stomach is part of a much larger disgestive system.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictio ... absorbtion
absorption /ab·sorp·tion/ (-sorp´shun)
1. the uptake of substances INTO OR ACROSS TISSUES [my caps]
4. in chemistry, the penetration of a substance within the inner structure of
another.
intestinal absorption: the uptake from the intestinal lumen of fluids, solutes,
proteins, fats, and other nutrients into the intestinal epithelial cells, blood,
lymph, or interstitial fluids.
and
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictio ... metabolism
metabolism /me·tab·o·lism/ (me-tab´o-lizm)
1. the sum of all the physical and chemical processes by which living organized substance is produced and maintained (anabolism), and also the transformation by
which energy is made available for the uses of the organism (catabolism).
ClO2 is not a nutrient.
The reason I capitalized "into or across tissues" is because ClO2 is not absorbed INTO cell, but across it.
What that means is that ClO2 is NOT METABOLIZED into cells, as
Humble himself alludes to when he says that ClO2 crashes into the cell wall. Nutrients, fats, etc are absorbed via metabolism and create what is needed by our bodies to live.
Finally:
1. Either people are causing a reaction that turns NaClO2 (and about 3% of who knows what) into ClO2 and are then creating a neutral molecule before ingestion.
2. The reaction creating ClO2 is incomplete for whatever reason (not enough time, not enough acid) and what they are ingesting is acidic but not all ClO2.
3. How does a supposedly neutral solution of ClO2 continue to be created in vivo, especially since
Humble has taken special pains to point out that the stomach is not a very acidic place to be.
4. Vitimin C pairs with the extra electron or free radical, and even in the best of circumstances, that juice people are told to take to get this solution down, would change the reaction again.
None of this may have any effect on how a ClO2 molecule behaves in vitro, but there are simply no studies that demonstrate anything but the absorbtion of ClO2 can take place. There are none that describe what it does once it's been absorbed.
, for fighting the valiant fight. But how does one fight with a person who can't even see the flaw in that statement?