Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

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phantasm
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Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by phantasm » Sun 5 Oct 2014 20:16

"Persister" cells only exist in light of the shortcomings of synthetic antibiotics.
Unfortunately, antibiotic-resistant diseases have reached epidemic
proportions throughout the world, and the overall effectiveness of
synthetic antibiotics is rapidly decreasing. As indicated by the Center
for Disease Control in Atlanta, we are informed that over 70,000 people
died in American hospitals the year 2000 from infectious conditions
that resisted conventional synthetic drugs. Common bacteria that lead
to the onset of pneumonia, ear infections and many other diseases are
evolving into forms that are untreatable by known synthetic drugs,
thereby threatening to create a chilling post-antibiotic era that would
be nothing short of a major medical disaster, according to Alexander
Tomasz of Rockefeller University in New York. He states, "In the
post-antibiotic world, the simplest infection could rapidly escalate
into fatal illnesses."

When a synthetic antibiotic is employed and fails to destroy even one
pathogenic microbe (out of trillions), that microbe can reproduce
itself and thereby create super microbes, which are constantly evolving
into different and more lethal strains. Some microbes can reproduce in
as little as twenty minutes. Due to the excessive use of synthetic
antibiotics by the medical establishment, strains of super microbes
have been created that become immune to destruction by any synthetic
antibiotic. Furthermore, penicillin and related synthetic antibiotics
produce harmful side-effects, which lead to even greater problems, such
as nausea, abdominal pain, Candidiasis, etc.

We are becoming immune to the selective synthetic antibiotics produced
by the pharmaceutical companies, and the medical community has
acknowledged this publicly for many years. On October 23, 1994, the Los
Angeles Times reported in an article entitled "Arsenal of Antibiotics
Failing as Resistant Bacteria Develop", states: "But in the last
decade, a broad resistance to antibiotics has begun to emerge. And
because bacteria can transfer genes among themselves, experts only
expect the resistance to grow. The potential nightmare is an Andromeda
strain, a super-microbe immune to all antibiotics that could wreck
havoc." In a December 1996 article in Reader's Digest, entitled
"Warning: Antibiotics Could Endanger Your Child", it is stated that
"Antibiotic resistance appeared soon after the introduction of these
synthetic drugs in the 1930's. Since then, more and more bacteria have
become resistant to more and more antibiotics". The article continues:
"Last January, researchers at the Georgetown University School of
Medicine's Department of Pediatrics monitored 20 children taking
amoxicillin daily to prevent ear infection. The study indicated that
while their risk of infection from a resistant germ was 20 percent
before using the antibiotic, after a five-month regimen, they stood a
100 percent chance of contracting a superbug, a fivefold increase in
risk. Four months after those children were taken off amoxicillin,
their risk level returned to its original point".



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... -five.html


"Children given antibiotics before the age of two 'are more likely to be obese by five'"


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/27/ ... -bacteria/


"Study: Antibiotics Don’t Kill Lyme Disease Bacteria"


http://www.healthfreedoms.org/genetical ... d-to-know/


"Genetically Modifying Humans Via Antibiotics? Something You Need To Know"

lou
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by lou » Tue 7 Oct 2014 3:11

80% of antibiotics in the U.S. are used in agriculture. Despite recent attempts to reduce that and to encourage use of different ones in ag from the ones that people take, the rate is increasing instead.

Antibiotic resistance is inevitable, as it is evolution. Until that fact is recognized, the program to cope with it will not be successful.

phantasm
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by phantasm » Tue 7 Oct 2014 3:33

Yes what is happening in agriculture is terrible , It's forced evolution. The problem is also that antibiotics in the environment do just what they do in your gut, they throw off the bacterial balance.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15757723


"Ecosystem response to antibiotics entering the aquatic environment"

We need to stop production of antibiotics completely...........if it isn't already too late.

nnecker
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by nnecker » Tue 7 Oct 2014 14:41

Phatasm,many LLMD's(a lot of them ILADS members)prescribe high doses of antibiotics for extended periods of time(in some cases years) for the treatment of Lyme disease.You do not support this kind of treatment?

lou
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by lou » Tue 7 Oct 2014 17:55

Stop production of antibiotics completely????? Geez, you are going to kill off a lot of people, including me.

So, we just don't treat people for bacterial infections? Sorry, you don't have my vote for this. How about you being first in line for this.

phantasm
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by phantasm » Fri 10 Oct 2014 17:51

I have been first in line and I cured my lyme disease and Morgellons disease and did not use antibiotics. They do not cure because the molecules are too big and they generate resistance , The microbes know how to deal with antibiotics handily. As well antibiotics are toxic poisons that have absolutely no good effect on your body, Antibiotics are designed to put money in Big Pharma's pocket, period.


Wanna know how?


www.lyme-morgellons.com

It is a no sales website that explains exactly how to accomplish this.

nnecker
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by nnecker » Fri 10 Oct 2014 19:37

I have caught Lyme twice,both times I pulled the tick out,both times I got a bulls eye rash,and both times 4 weeks of Doxy cleared it right up.Thank God for antibiotics.

As far as Silver Sol goes,if Jim Bakker is selling it,then that seals the deal for me as far as it being pure quackery.

http://jimbakkershow.com/lovegifts/silver-sol.html

phantasm
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by phantasm » Sat 11 Oct 2014 0:07

Siver Sol won't work by itself you need to add other components. Because there is no one thing that will remove it. Doxy won't. because it is inadequate just like all the other antibiotics. They change into different pleomorphic forms and doxy won't kill those.

phantasm
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by phantasm » Sat 11 Oct 2014 0:21

Here is a pretty good write up on doxycycline's ability to address pleomorphic forms.


http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/sapi0710.html

"We have also demonstrated that doxycycline, one of the primary antibiotics used in the clinic to treat Lyme disease, only had significant effect on the spirochetal form of B. burgdorferi."


"In this study, our working hypothesis was that for an efficient therapy, we have to find antimicrobial agents that can eliminate all the forms of B. burgdorferi. During the course of Borrelia infection, the bacteriumcan shift among the different forms, converting from the spirochete form to the others when presented with an unfavorable environment and reverting to the spirochete when the condition is again favorable for growth.1-4 To successfully eradicate B. burgdorferi, antimicrobial agents should eliminate all those forms, including the spirochetes, round bodies, and biofilmlike colonies."


Although this is not a complete understanding of what is taking place to say that someone is cured by doxy isn't scientifically supported.

phantasm
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Re: Antibiotic Resistance or "Persister"cells.

Post by phantasm » Sat 11 Oct 2014 0:25

Oh and here is the BYU study on silver Hydrosol.


http://lifesilver.com/v1/lifesilver.com ... verSol.pdf


But this only supplies part of the equation, you need other things as explained here;


www.lyme-morgellons.com

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