That's a rather strong reaction when all I pointed out was that he focuses on the arthritic aspect of Lyme disease and has had a history of not discussing neurological symptoms. Are you disputing that he has done so? So far, I've had no indication of that. I've only seen you state as a rheumatologist he should be expected to emphasize the rheumatological aspects of the disease. I pointed out that I did not disagree with you on that specific point, but that the issue was since he was FIRST and he played a huge historical role in the disease's discovery and naming of it, he has been given a fair amount of weight in defining the disease.Bagge wrote: Oh, please! This is unbelievable. Talk about witch hunts and stalking and persecutions. If anyone doesn't like the way Steere named or dealt with his own research, then they should do their own.
I didn't name call, engage in an ad hominem attack or persecute Steere in any way. I may have some objections about the way he has characterized the disease, and I have stated that. There are researchers and doctors who may have similar objections - including ones from Europe. Just offering any sort of criticism shouldn't have to lead to charges that one is engaging in a witch hunt of some sort.
You know Bagge, give others some latitude here to share their opinion without it automatically becoming a charge of conducting a witch hunt and engaging in persecution by those who disagree. Sometimes people just disagree. And that's how it is.
Me= Lymeland? Don't try to claim that I don't have the money or the influence? Do you have any idea what my situation actually is, Bagge? You really haven't read previous posts I've addressed to you in the past nor my blog and actually absorbed what I said, have you? So let's try it again: Bagge, I've been too sick to work, lost my last job years ago, and am broke. I have thousands of dollars in medical debt I can't pay. So NO, I am not in any condition, healthwise or financially, to do research on Lyme disease.Bagge wrote: Nothing is stopping you, and don't try to claim that you (Lymeland) doesn't have the money or the influence. Go get Mercola to donate more money, or Ornish or any number of people in India and Brazil and Germany and lest we not forget Ecuador, FAIM and that other 'group' that starts with a "M".
As for the rest... Mercola, Ornish, FAIM... You know I don't buy into the medical opinions of those guys so I think you are just trying to get a rise out of me. No one reading along believes for a moment I would ask for money from those guys.
I already have a degree, worked in research, and got sick. You should know my situation. When I am well enough, I fully intend to address the Lyme disease situation in a way which is compatible with my skills, education, experience, and oh, not risking ruining my health further.Bagge wrote: This is this epitome of "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned", except that it is mostly a bunch of women, and McDonald. Get over it and do your own research. There are universities all over the country. Go to college, get an education, beg for grant money and financial backers, open your own practice and research lab, and stop blaming a medical STUDENT for something he did decades ago. He has a successful career. If you don't like his research, and you don't like his or anyone else's advise then do your own research to refute it. Where the heck is Polly Murray, yet another artist is she? Why didn't she go to medical school if she has such a problem with him? People are latching onto him and few others worse than any tick or rabid animal that I've ever seen.
I'm not blaming a medical student for something he did decades ago. I'm looking at the entire trajectory and what is being done NOW. Steere has a successful career in rheumatology and fine, stick to rheumatology if that's working for you - it covers spondylitis, osteoarthritis, psoriatic arthritis, and a wide range of rheumatic conditions. He can have them. All I stated was that the diagnosis and definition of Lyme disease isn't his alone, but because of its history, the rheumatological aspect was overemphasized early on. Some self-correcting is, in my opinion, needed there. And other researchers have been working on mentioning those other symptoms as they have published their work on Lyme disease. It just doesn't stick in family doctor's heads, though, as much a rash/flu/knee does.
I fully support these other researchers in their mention of additional symptoms and investigation into the neurological and cognitive effects of Lyme disease on patients. I can't do the research, so I applaud their efforts and if I had money, I would give it to organizations like the NRFTD or maybe to LRA for VGV-L.
As for Ms. Murray... Far as I know, she continues to create art and live her life as fully as she can. People do what they're good at. And just because someone like her has a complaint about someone else and how they do their job doesn't mean they should work hard to do their job better or replace them. The party at whom the criticism is directed should reflect on criticism and consider a change of course in their action - rather than their replacement. Hell, I have some criticism about President Obama's policies but that doesn't mean I want to be President - I want him to consider how his policies have an impact on people, acknowledge them, and work to change his policies. At least I get to vote for Presidents and Governors and have some say in bills and petitions.