Camp Other wrote:I agree. What IS the point of repeating the same topics over and over?
It does cross my mind that sometimes I wonder if Bagge really knows zir audience here - or if Bagge is writing for the lurkers and not members.
And yet again, we're off topic. For about, oh, the something-thousandth time.
If I were to comment with praise for certain providers of snake oil who are members of certain 'medical' organizations or associations, there would be no criticism. I am well aware of that double-standard, as are many. It is the law of the land with Lyme disease activism - do not let anyone speak of the wrong-doings of the major players. If they do, spam their comments and accuse them of persecutions and misdeeds. It's a manipulation tactic, but it works on some, until they learn better. Fortunately there are a couple of people left around with some integrity and willing to enlighten others, and I and many others owe them a great deal of appreciation.
No one is asking you to praise certain providers of snake oil. What I asked you is for positive recommendations for doctors who treat Lyme disease and/or other tickborne infections - not snake oil sellers.
Bagge, I think I've been rather clear on a few points during my history here at LNE and in my own blog. Is there some reason you seem to not absorb the following points - or is it that you have in fact absorbed them but continue to bring up the same topic in relation to nearly every thread anyway
, because you have the freedom to post on LNE and know you would be censored on other Lyme fora?
Those few points:
1) I have no issue with someone pointing out that a doctor is practicing based on pseudoscience - especially as long as they provide scientific evidence that what they do is pseudoscience and how precisely it is pseudoscience.
2) I have no issue with someone pointing out that a doctor has done something harmful or engaged in unethical behavior and providing evidence that they have done something harmful or engaged in unethical behavior. I only warn any author of such discussions that they may wish to tread carefully about how they go about it because they can open themselves up to a charge of libel/defamation. Remember: An accusation is not the same thing as guilt.
3) I myself have pointed out pseudoscientific practices and doctors I wish were not practicing medicine, and yet Bagge and a few others have told me I am persecuting them and wrongly accusing them when ask them for examples doctors who are engaging in model medical practices and helping Lyme disease patients. WTF?
Anyone at LNE can pretty much say what they want without being censored. Perhaps, Bagge, being here comes as a relief to you because you know you are highly unlikely to be censored for what you write and also, unlikely to be banned. I can see how that would be liberating if you felt judged on another forum and thought you were being ignored and insulted by others for sharing what you thought was important information and only for others' own good.
However, I've been here for a while and I'm already well acquainted with the issues you've brought up about pseudoscience and doctors who practice it - as have a number of active members who have been here a while.
So, how can we make progress past this point and discuss something else? Or - if you must discuss these issues - can you put them in a new topic thread?